Curse

pumpkin pie · Aug 03, 2008, 10:55 AM // 10:55

the point is would you eat mad cow, mad chicken or mad anything? think of the big farm and how they raise the chickens cows and pigs to the point of madness. and then think what will happen to people who consume those.

yuck!

artay · Aug 03, 2008, 11:31 AM // 11:31

From wiki;

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Nevertheless, the fact that the food contains minute quantities does not necessarily mean that there is a significant hazard. The gastrointestinal tract sheds its outer layer continuously to protect itself from carcinomas, and has a high activity of detoxifying enzymes.

Someones comment on the vid;

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Bogus.

The potato they compared the fries to, was FRESH. Try cooking it in oil and then it will last for years too.

There seems to be alot of similar comments, seems to make sense. And preservatives are in practically everything right? I dont think I really care.

zwei2stein · Aug 03, 2008, 11:53 AM // 11:53

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Originally Posted by artay

And preservatives are in practically everything right? I dont think I really care.

If everything you buy in supermarkets, yes.

I am from rural area and have pretty good access to raw products with next to no chemicals involved, and I have to say that taste difference in everything is astounding (plus its supposedly more healthy). I guess people brough up on mass oproduced food cant really know it. But yeah, you should care if you care about quality of your life.

pumpkin pie · Aug 03, 2008, 12:24 PM // 12:24

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Originally Posted by artay

From wiki;

Someones comment on the vid;

There seems to be alot of similar comments, seems to make sense. And preservatives are in practically everything right? I dont think I really care.

Most people actually don't care, only a few do. the point isn't weather theres a large quantity or an insignifiant amout of preservative in the food we consume daily, its Why Do You and Me Let Them Do that To Us?

We as consumer let business ruin the quality of people's life. The blame falls partly onto the consumers because we are lazy to cook, because we want FAST food. must catch up in the the fast lane of life. And more importantly the "we don't care" attitude.

PS: The respond to the 4years old McDonald video. that guy think if you pay for cheap food then you deserved to get bad quality food? How does someone grow a retarded brain like that? Food, Good Quality Food are not suppose to be expensive!!!

zwei2stein · Aug 03, 2008, 12:48 PM // 12:48

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Originally Posted by pumpkin pie

PS: The respond to the 4years old McDonald video. that guy think if you pay for cheap food then you deserved to get bad quality food? How does someone grow a retarded brain like that? Food, Good Quality Food are not suppose to be expensive!!!

Its luxury from economical POW. Low quality food is much cheaper to produce:

* Pesticides/Herbicides and Antibiotics increase yield
* Agresive fertilizers and Growth hormones/MKMs icrease yields too

So you can grow more and sell thus sell cheaper.

* Preservatives allow you to stock food longer and sell it in more remote markets.
* Pigments give food healthier look.

So you can sell more and easier.

Healthy food has no such advantage: Your yield will be lowered by diseases/pests and you grow less to begin with. You cant ship it to markets that will give you better price and it has limited shelf life so you have some losses when selling it. And heatlhy meat as well as vegetables dont have bright attractive colors of doctored food so it is less attractive to customers.

Peasants always ate low quality food. 21st centruy is not different.

Malice Black · Aug 03, 2008, 12:48 PM // 12:48

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Originally Posted by pumpkin pie

Most people actually don't care, only a few do. the point isn't weather theres a large quantity or an insignifiant amout of preservative in the food we consume daily, its Why Do You and Me Let Them Do that To Us?

We as consumer let business ruin the quality of people's life. The blame falls partly onto the consumers because we are lazy to cook, because we want FAST food. must catch up in the the fast lane of life. And more importantly the "we don't care" attitude.

PS: The respond to the 4years old McDonald video. that guy think if you pay for cheap food then you deserved to get bad quality food? How does someone grow a retarded brain like that? Food, Good Quality Food are not suppose to be expensive!!!

You pay for quality. If I spend £3 on a chicken I expect it to be shit, if I pay £10 for a free range chicken I expect it to be good. Cheap food is cheap because it's generally shit. The same rule applies to almost everything a typical consumer might buy. Take naturally grown fruit n veg as an example, it can be up to 50% more expensive then a similar product that has had pesticides used on it, why? because it's a better quality of food. While the cost of growing it has some bearing on the overall price, it is still a mass mark up.

Slabby · Aug 03, 2008, 12:57 PM // 12:57

I'd still eat at McDo's if I had the chance.
It's cheap, tasty and my family is known for being skinny so who cares

pumpkin pie · Aug 03, 2008, 01:28 PM // 13:28

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Originally Posted by Malice Black

You pay for quality. If I spend £3 on a chicken I expect it to be shit, if I pay £10 for a free range chicken I expect it to be good. Cheap food is cheap because it's generally shit. The same rule applies to almost everything a typical consumer might buy. Take naturally grown fruit n veg as an example, it can be up to 50% more expensive then a similar product that has had pesticides used on it, why? because it's a better quality of food. While the cost of growing it has some bearing on the overall price, it is still a mass mark up.

Hey malice, welcome back, or you were lurking and actually is here all the time!

my rebuttal, see that's the problem, everyone should get good quality food,

but politic and greed and the world economy as a whole as it is now, means if you are poor you will die :P and its not correct.

I totally understand why they are expensive, but the point is they should not be.

Malice Black · Aug 03, 2008, 01:41 PM // 13:41

Been banned for the last month or so. Been busy with other shit anyway.

In an ideal world everyone would have access to good quality produce and products, but we don't live in that ideal world. Money is power, and in terms of this thread produce name/brand is power.

Kusandaa · Aug 03, 2008, 01:42 PM // 13:42

Yep, I hated McDo before, this isn't the thing that's gonna make me go back to it. In 23 years I went in twice, they messed up with my order both times and in the end, I prefer my own burgers' to it >_>.

Malice Black · Aug 03, 2008, 02:04 PM // 14:04

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Originally Posted by Kusandaa

Yep, I hated McDo before, this isn't the thing that's gonna make me go back to it. In 23 years I went in twice, they messed up with my order both times and in the end, I prefer my own burgers' to it >_>.

Best advert for staying in school

otherwise you'll be in McD screwing up Kusadaa's order.

"Would you like to go large"

Nightmares Hammer · Aug 03, 2008, 03:52 PM // 15:52

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Originally Posted by pumpkin pie

means if you are poor you will die :P and its not correct.

Communism, comrade.

Anyway, I don't eat that shit.

Vilaptca · Aug 03, 2008, 04:49 PM // 16:49

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Originally Posted by fenix

Of all the issues in the world, this is not at all important.

It's not going to sit there in your stomach for 4 years....so who really cares?

These are my exact thoughts.

Its not like you aren't going to shit this stuff out a couple days later. Who cares.

Kanyatta · Aug 03, 2008, 05:01 PM // 17:01

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Originally Posted by fishy go moo

...and then I saw this http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=SInn_1...watch_response

It makes sense about the fries not decomposing.

Yeah, I would like to see a grocery-store bought potato deep-fried, then show it to me after 3 months, it's probably going to resemble the McDonalds fry. I doubt it's the actual ingredients of the fry.

Also, people go to McDonald's because, like he said, it's inexpensive and fast. Save money and time rather than spending 30 minutes over a stove.

Divinitys Creature · Aug 03, 2008, 08:27 PM // 20:27

Look at the bottle of vegatable oil in your kitchen - does it decompose? Right. Now look at that container of salt - does it decompose all on it's own? Ok. THAT's why the fry does not decompose IMHO. Your stomache has HYDROCHLORIC ACID in it that decomposes it! Anyway experiment yourself. I covered various things that normally go mouldy in a couple of days like leftovers and cut vegetables, applied a little oil and they never went mouldy after 3 years! I used olive oil and that is very easily broke down by the body.

Anyway I don't like fast food but I have it like once a month so I don't think I'll have any problems. For all that's said about fast food and weight loss and stuff I think they should admit what makes it really hard to eat healthy. COST. Bad food is cheaper. At least here in London, England. I spent a long time eating healthy, cooking natural food and buying it as cheap as it was practical to - and it was damn expensive. And time consuming, which means it's even more expensive because time == money (or you just don't have time to do it). When you're poor it's just really expensive to buy natural food only and be healthy. And you're often working a lot so you don't have time to do all that.

**cosyfiep** · Aug 03, 2008, 09:57 PM // 21:57

uhm, veggie oil goes bad, especially in hot weather (if it doesnt smelll right it aint right...and toss it).

ah brings back memories of living in japan during the last bird flu thing----had broke down and got some kfc (yes they have that over there---and its what they eat for xmas, I dont lie, you must order a bucket a month in advance in some part of japan if you want it for xmas!)...so I get home and am munching on my chicken sando----turn on the news....the bird flu just hit kyoto and nagoya (uhm, I LIVE in nagoya)....ah oh well----I ate the rest of my sando and had no problems......

and the stomach problems I am having now are due to the enzymes in my stomach no longer being there---as we age our bodies slow down production of those....soon if you are lucky like me there is NOTHING helping to decompose the stuff in your stomach, and you get lots of problems.....the hcl is NOT enough to decompose the stuff in your stomach---believe me I can show you the pictures!

great sir s · Aug 03, 2008, 10:01 PM // 22:01

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Originally Posted by Arkantos

Meh, not going to stop me from going to Mcdonalds when I'm out, hungry, and want something fast.

EXACTLY!hahahaha

RotteN · Aug 04, 2008, 12:56 PM // 12:56

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Originally Posted by pumpkin pie

preservative contains Carcinogen thats why its bad if some suspicious food can stay the way it look after 4 years, think of the amount of preservative put into that.

Did you actually study human toxicology or are you just throwing fancy words around ?

First of all a LOT of things are carcinogenic. That doesn't mean we should all go spanish inquisition style on it and ban it from our life. Things from a barbeque for example will contain cyclic hydrocarbons created by incomplete combustion. Those are carcinogenic aswell. So should we all ban barbeques ?

Secondly you cannot link preservation of certain food to the actual use of chemical preservatives. French fries are deep fried and salted. Heating and curing are wellknown ways to preserve food. The hamburger is another matter. But do you honestly think a company would pump chemicals into a low-cost product that's ment to be consumed fast anyway ?

Fast food is not healthy, but for a whole set of reasons that have nothing to do with "hey this hamburger ages so well omfg !". The movie was funny though.

pumpkin pie · Aug 04, 2008, 03:50 PM // 15:50

go ahead and eat your filled lol, like I care.

**cosyfiep** · Aug 04, 2008, 10:46 PM // 22:46

yes ban bbq (its horrible, and no I dont like the taste of either lighter fluid or briquettes.)
Yes ban all fast food....(cant eat any of it with my diet, and when I wasnt on this goshdarnit diet...I STILL would never eat any fast food hamburger---havent even been IN a mc'd since like 1990....and dont think I have even been in a burger king. now wendys had some nice salad bars---and the baked potatoes were good too....but havent been there since the turn of the century either, I do however, like arbys and kfc---but only go there MAYBE once a year).
death to fast food!